Turnouts with Digital Command Control

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Short Definition

Arrangement of rails to allow a train to be switched between the main route and a diverging route

Atlas HO Turnout

Summary: A Turnout is the arrangement of rails to allow a train to be switched between the main route and a diverging route. A turnout consists of two components: A switch made of moveable and fixed rails, and a Frog. In model railroad terminology, turnout usually refers to a ready-made track item that can be incorporated into a layout, but the idea is the same. A turnout is also known as a switch, set of points or simply points. For purposes of clarity, the term turnout will be used for track switches.

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Turnouts

With the advent of two rail track, the challenge facing commercial turnout manufacturers was how to deal with the differing rail polarities which meet at the heel of the frog.

The easiest solution was to use an electrically insulated frog. A number of manufactures were available using either metal frogs with gaps to isolate them, or a simple cast plastic frog. A more complex method was the live frog, where its polarity was controlled by the route chosen. While this method worked, it also created short circuits in certain track configurations, mandating the installation of insulated rail joiners.

Where DCC simplified track wiring and eliminated the issue of polarity, a new issue arose. With all the track powered all the time, there is the issue of a phase mismatch at the frog resulting in short circuits. Improved design resulted in manufactures which featured isolated switch rails which are in phase with their stock rails, but could not eliminate phase mismatches at the frog or point rails. Certain practices are necessary to prevent phase mismatch issues at the frog and point rails.

With a little modification and careful installation, any turnout can be used with DCC.

You do not have to buy turnouts labelled "Digital Command Control-ready" when converting a layout to Digital Command Control. You should choose the turnouts that best suit your overall requirements and do not go out of your way to find "Digital Command Control-ready" or "Digital Command Control Friendly Turnouts".

  1. All turnouts work with Digital Command Control
  2. There are no turnouts that do not work with Digital Command Control
  3. If a turnout works with analog it will work with Digital Command Control

Terminology

Many use the terms turnout and switch interchangeably.

In prototype practice:

  • A SWITCH consists of two switch rails with all the necessary accessories.
    A SWITCH is not a TURNOUT, only part of it. Branching from one track to another requires a turnout with both a frog and a switch.
    The terminology is from the US Steel Trackwork Catalog. Some images may not conform to standard prototype nomenclature.

A complete turnout consists of:

  1. A straight stock rail
  2. A straight closure rail
  3. Two switch rails
  4. A curved stock rail
  5. A curved closure rail
    The closure rails form the wing rails in the frog
  6. The Frog
    1. The frog is formed by the wing and point rails
    2. The frog has a toe, formed by the wing rails and a heel formed by the point rails
  7. The point rails lead out of the heel of the frog

The frog consists of a number of parts.

The main components of the frog are the LH and RH Wing rails, which constitute the TOE of the frog. The HEEL of the frog is created by the Point rails. The HEEL has the flangeways between the Point and Wing rails. The THROAT is the section where the Wing rails diverge before the point formed by the Point rails.

In prototype and model practice, it is often formed from a single cast part.

Turnout Nomenclature

Unfortunately many sources have creative but incorrect terminology. Incorrect terms make troubleshooting or explaining an issue difficult. The most common culprit is confusing the point rails with the switch rails.

The terms used on the DCCWiki are those found in the USS Track Work catalog. Unfortunately some of the drawings presented may not align with the accepted terminology.

Parts of a Turnout

HO Scale turnout with parts identified

Detailed Diagram of a Turnout

Switch-parts.jpg

Frog Components

Frog-Drwg.png

As shown in the drawing, the frog consists of several parts.

The frog is formed by the Wing Rails at the toe, and Point Rails, which form the heel. As the wheel travels down the closure rail into the toe of the frog, the wing rail supports the wheel as the tread transfers from it to the point rail. At no time is the wheel unsupported. The wheel continues along the point rail as it exits the frog. Close clearances allow this. The guard rails (not shown) are there to keep the truck moving in the correct direction, if necessary. The profile of the wheel and the rail keeps everything centered on the rails, while the flanges are just there in case additional guidance is needed.

In modern prototype practice, the frog is often a cast metal part. It is work hardened by the passage of a train, or by using explosives.

Commercial model turnouts can feature a number of methods to construct the frog, including cast metal or plastic frogs, or forming them using rails and moulded plastic. When hand laying your turnouts, the frog will be formed using rail stock, or by using a commercial casting. The advantage of hand laid track work is the clearances can be close to the NMRA standards. Using your NMRA gauge on a commercial product will reveal a number of compromises where made.

Types of Turnouts Used in Model Railroading

In Model Railroading the following terms are used to describe a turnout:

  1. Non-Power Routing
  2. Self Isolating or Power Routing
  3. Non-isolating Power Routing
  4. Self Powered

Frog Numbers

The number of a frog is the ratio of the spread to its distance from the theoretical point (where the long and short point rails would form a point, not the actual point).

A number 4 frog is 1" in 4". The spread is measured at right angles to the center line. The actual angle formed is 14 degrees 15 minutes.

As per prototype practice, for high speed movements a turnout of #16 to 20 is recommended. Mainline slow speed movements, #10 to 12. Yards and sidings, #8. For modelling purposes, #8 is good for most applications, with smaller frog angles for yards and branch lines.

Turnouts DCCWiki.com
Frog number Radius, Feet Degree of Curve (DMS) Inches
O Scale HO Scale N Scale
5 177.8 32-39-56 44 24 13
6 258.57 22-17-58 65 35 19
8 487.28 11-46-44 122 67 37
10 779.39 7-21-24 195 107 58
12 1104.63 5-11-20 276 151 83
16 2007.12 2-51-18 502 275 151
18 2578.79 2-13-20 645 354 193
20 3289.29 1-44-32 822 451 247

As the table shows, a number 20 turnout requires a radius of 21 feet (247/12") in N Scale. So for modelling purposes, a number 10 or 12 turnout is reasonable compromise at five to seven feet (in N). In H0 Scale a #10 has a radius of 9 feet.


Digital Command Control and Turnouts

To say the least, Digital Command Control has certain requirements that must be met by your track work. The two electrical issues are related are the switch (sometimes called the points) rails and the frog. Using your NMRA gauge to verify the clearances of the turnout as goes a long way.

Verify wheel sets are in gauge using an NMRA gauge. Out of gauge wheel sets can cause shorts and derailments. Consider replacing plastic wheels with metal ones, as plastic wheels can wobble due to manufacturing issues. Verify that the trucks have free movement in both horizontal and vertical planes.

  • Short Circuits are a disruptive problem and should be minimized. Since full power is available on the rails at all times, a short will cause interruptions in your enjoyment. They can also allow enough current to flow to weld things together, which is never a good thing. Your boosters will react quickly and shut down everything, and if the short is not cleared, will begin cycling on and off until it is cleared.
  • Wheels on Rails is not the most reliable power delivery system. Your locomotives need a clean, uninterrupted Digital Command Control signal on the track for proper operation. Electrically unreliable turnouts will cause problems like stalling, or in the case of sound decoders, restarting of the prime mover.
  • A careless operator can foul a turnout, creating a short, causing the Digital Command Control signal to be cut off. Or it may just cause problems until the points are aligned correctly, inconveniencing everyone else until power is restored.
  • You want to run your trains and have fun, and troublesome turnouts are not going to improve the experience.

Older turnouts may present issues with Digital Command Control. When they were made Digital Command Control wasn't available or not widespread. Later versions may have been improved to deal with issues arising with Digital Command Control.

Frog Types

The Frog is formed by the Wing and Point Rails. The wheel enters the toe of the frog, and rides onto the wing rail. The wing rail supports the wheel as it moves from the wing to point rail. On a prototype switch, at no point does the wheel fall into the gap between the wing and point rails.

There are two types of frogs used in Model Railroading: Live (powered) and Dead (unpowered).

Dead (Insulated) Frogs

The dead frog means it is isolated from the rest of the track. Typically the frog will be made from an insulating material such as plastic, but a metal casting can be used as well. Others used rails with gaps to construct the frog, This method made turnouts which were much more Digital Command Control compatible than older turnouts with live frogs, at less cost. The PECO Insulfrog is a good example, as are many other brands, such as the Atlas Snap Track and almost all turnouts made with brass rail. Also available are turnouts by Micro Engineering, Walthers, the Atlas Custom Line Code 83 turnouts and others with metal frogs insulated from the adjoining rails.

  • Atlas
  • Peco Insulfrog
    • Peco's insulated frog turnouts are ready to use out-of-the-box with the slight caveat described below (see Small Frogs).
  • Micro Engineering
  • Walthers/Shinohara Digital Command Control Compatible (Older ones may need come work to make them compatible)
  • Hand laid turnouts, such as those made using Fast Tracks jigs or Central Valley kits

Dead/Insulated frog turnouts are shown in the picture for Self Isolating Turnouts.

Live Frogs

Live Frogs are metal and electrically connected to the track power. They have the advantage of less unpowered track but are slightly more complicated to wire up. They require insulated rail joiners or gaps on the point rails to prevent a short. Some designs may incorporate a gap at the heel of the frog to prevent a short.

Isolated frogs are made from metal but are electrically isolated from all the other rails which makes them behave very much like insulated frogs. However, being metal, this gives you the option to convert them to live frog operation by attaching a feed wire to the frog.

There are two ways that live frogs can get their power:

  • Self Powered
  • Frog Switching
Just because the frog is constructed from metal (a casting or with rails) does not mean it is live.

An example of a live frog is the Peco Electrofrog.

Isolated frog turnouts are shown in the picture Non-Power Routing Turnouts.

Turnout Overview

Also see the page on DCC Friendly Turnouts.

Remote Operation

Main article: Turnout Operation

On a Digital Command Control layout, turnouts can be operated remotely by Turnout Motors controlled by Stationary Decoders using commands sent from a Throttle.

Types of Turnouts

Commercial turnouts are produced in many different shapes, sizes, sleeper types, rail profiles, and degrees of realism. To complicate the choice there are various different electrical behaviours and some are labelled "DCC-Ready" or "DCC-Friendly" and others are not. So, which type should you choose?

You do not have to buy turnouts labelled "DCC-ready" and you do not have to modify existing turnouts when converting a layout to Digital Command Control. You should choose the turnouts that best suit your overall requirements and don't go out of your way to find "DCC-ready" or "DCC Friendly Turnouts". However there are several special considerations to bear in mind and if you're just starting out on a Digital Command Control project it will be well worth investing the time to understand the different types of turnouts, their various benefits and the best way to wire them up.

But before you read on and get too confused, remember a few rules...

  • All turnouts work with Digital Command Control
  • There are no turnouts that don't work with Digital Command Control
  • If a turnout works with analog it will work with Digital Command Control

Power and Non Power Routing Turnouts

This is the issue that confuses many modellers.

With analog power, using the turnout as an electrical switch has advantages. A locomotive can be driven onto a siding, and then the turnout is aligned against it. The turnout provides two functions: It controls the routing of electricity in addition to the route the train takes. The turnout could disconnect power to the siding, or just make both rails the same polarity resulting in no voltage between the rails. This eliminated the need for additional wiring and switches to control power to the siding.

With the advent of Digital Command Control, the track wiring changed. Multiple blocks were eliminated, as the entire layout now had a single source of power. Power routing was no longer an issue, as all track is energized all the time. Issues arose with turnout wiring, as a power routing turnout could cause a short if the point rails were connected together, as the turnout controlled the point rail's phase. This could lead to short circuits when the switch rails connected the incorrect phase to the point rails.

Non-Power Routing Turnouts

In Non-Power Routing turnouts all routes are powered. In commercial turnouts, this is achieved with internal bonding wires (usually on the underside) between the stock and switch rails or stock and closure rails (the diagram shows the latter case but they are effectively equivalent to each other). Since the stock and switch rail pair are electrically connected and share the same phase relationship, there should be no shorts caused by a wheel bridging the gap between them. Their point rails are usually connected to the appropriate rail.

Non-Power Routing Turnout


Atlas and Roco are examples of non-power routing turnouts.

Power Routing Turnouts

Self-Isolating

Self-Isolating / Power Routing turnouts are those which only power the track on the selected route, the other route is electrically dead. This is a good feature for analog layouts because it automatically isolates a locomotive sitting idle on a siding. The point of using Digital Command Control is you do not need to cut the power to make a locomotive stop, and doing so will prevent things from working; such as sound, lights, and CV programming. The solution is simple though, just add power feeds to the track in the siding. Insulated Rail Joiners or gaps cut into the track are needed to avoid creating a short.

This feature is usually implemented by wires connecting the closure rail to the appropriate point rail, located beneath the frog. The switch rails function as a electrical switch, connecting or disconnecting power.

Peco Insulfrog and Hornby are examples of self-isolating power routing turnouts.

Non-Isolating

Non-Isolating Power Routing Turnout

Non-Isolating Power Routing turnouts only power the track on the selected route, the other route has the same phase on both rails. To a locomotive, it sees no potential difference (voltage) between the two rails. Like the self-isolating trunouts this is not good for Digital Command Control. And whether you're using Digital Command Control or not, this type of turnout needs isolating rail joiners or gaps (not shown in the diagram) on the end of the point rails to prevent short circuits when power is also fed from elsewhere.

These turnouts have all of their point rails, closure rails and points electrically connected together. In some cases this is partly because the closure rails share the same metal hinge mechanism. The frog may or may not be live, in the diagram below a live frog version is shown. Shorts may occur if a wheel bridges the gap between the switch and stock rail.

PECO Electrofrogs are examples of non-isolating power routing turnouts.

Shinohara Turnouts (Walthers) come in two varieties. The older ones are non-isolating power routing. They can be identified by the metal bars joining the switch rails together and there are no gaps at the toe and heel of the frog. Small metal tabs under the points connect the switch rails to either stock rail.

Self Powered

With the self-powered or power routing type of turnout, the frog is electrically connected to switch rails and therefore takes the phase according to the route selected by way of the switch rail contacting the stock rail.

The main task to perform is to gap the two point rails. With ready-made turnouts this simply means installing insulating rail joiners on those two rails. The second task you may want to perform is wiring a frog feed that also provides the correct phase to the frog. This avoids having to rely on the contact between switch and stock rails making a good electrical connection.

Peco call theirs Electrofrogs. Peco's live frog turnouts are ready to use out-of-the-box (using insulating rail joiners on the point rails) as the self-powered type. However they are designed to be easily converted to the other type (frog switching) if desired. Without modification, the risk of shorts between the switch rail and its adjacent stock rail exist, as both switch rails share the same phase.

Many brands offer these types of turnouts such as Micro Engineering's older turnouts, Shinohara, Walthers and PECO's Electrofrog.

Frog Switching

Digital Command Control Friendly Turnout with Frog Phase Switching

With frog switching, the frog is isolated from all the other rails and must get its power from a separate power feed that switches accordingly.

The next diagram shows "Digital Command Control-Friendly" turnouts with the frog phase switch added. Here a switch is mechanically linked to the tie-bar so that whatever operates the points also operates the frog switch. This can either be a turnout motor with a built in switch, or a SPDT switch mounted at the side of the layout with a rod or wire-in-tube linking it to the tie-bar. An alternative to a mechanical switch is an electronic device such as the Frog Juicer.

Short Circuits

Three types of short circuits can occur at turnouts. Most of the time none of these should be an issue but if you want to improve the reliability of your layout take note.

None of these issues are specific to Digital Command Control but since a short on a Digital Command Control layout trips the booster and cuts power to all of the locomotives in the same district, the effect is much more annoying.

Small Frogs

The smaller an insulated frog is, the less dead track there is to inadvertently stall your locomotive. However if they are too small and your rolling stock wheels are too wide there is a risk that a metal wheel will bridge the gap between the two point rails where they meet in the frog. Peco Insulfrog turnouts can have this issue, especially with older, cruder profile wheels.

During installation the point rails must have insulating rail joiners to isolate them from the downstream trackwork. This allows the switch to control power flow to the point rails, and eliminates the issue with bridging the point rails in the frog. This is important if the point rails are electrically bonded together.

If this proves to be a problem for you, see the page on the Peco Insulfrog for a simple fix.


Stock Rail to Switch Rail Shorts

This is another issue that can occur with crude profile metal wheels, or with wheel sets or rails out of gauge. If the wheel's tread is wide enough the back of the wheel's flange can touch the side of the open switch rail.

Out of gauge wheel sets or trackwork where the wheel can bridge the gap. Verifying wheel gauge and turnouts clearances with an NMRA Gauge can identify these issues. In the case of wheelsets, they should be checked and corrected as necessary before new rolling stock goes on your layout.

If you hand lay your trackwork, use an appropriate gauge to check the clearances during turnout construction, especially the switch rail clearances. The gauge can also identify issues with commercial turnouts as well, since compromises are made for manufacturing.

Insulated frog or live frog turnouts can have this issue depending on how the switch rails are wired. Ideally they should be isolated from the frog and electrically connected to the adjacent stock rail.

This issue can occur with Peco Electrofrogs because out-of-the box both switch rails are electrically connected to the live frog which means the one rail will have the opposite phase of the adjacent stock rail. Peco supply instructions with all their Electrofrog turnouts for modifying them to solve this problem.

Running into Turnouts the Wrong Way (Against the Points)

See Also

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