NCE
Manufacturer: NCE
Summary: NCE began as an OEM in 1993, supplying hardware and software for the Wangrow SystemOne. NCE became a DCC manufacturer when Wangrow passed on the NCE Power House DCC system as the replacement for the SystemOne. Today NCE offers a variety of DCC Systems and accessories.
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Phone | +1-585-265-0230 |
Fax | +1-585-265-0234 |
[email protected] | |
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Main URL | Main URL |
URL to manuals | |
Address | NCE Corporation
82 East main Street Webster, NY 14580 |
Date Opened | 1993 |
Date Closed | |
Successor | |
Device Types | Other, Booster, Command Station, Mobile Decoder, Power Supply, Stationary Decoder, Throttle |
NCE Corporation
Company Summary
NCE Decoder
NCE began manufacturing DCC Products on an OEM basis in 1993 and was originally known as North Coast Engineering. They provided the software component of Wangrow's SystemOne and RamFixx Technologies' RamTraxx DCC systems. The name was changed to NCE when it was incorporated in 1996. Today, NCE has to grown into a full-time electronic design and manufacturing firm devoted entirely to the development and sale of products for the control of model railroads.
The NCE Power House was intended to be marketed by Wangrow as the next generation SystemOne. Wangrow declined, so NCE decided since it was a finished, ready for production product, they would release it under their own brand. Wangrow subsequently went out of business when their licence for the command station software supplied by NCE expired. Wangrow failed to comprehend the difficulty and time requirements needed to create their own software.
Products
NCE produces a full line of Digital Command Control products
Starter Sets
Advanced Systems
- Power Pro
- Power Pro R (Radio)
- Power Pro 10
- Power Pro 10 R
Originally this system was marketed under the Power House name. Complete system with Throttle (Pro Cab), integrated Command Station / Booster. A Power Supply is NOT included.
- Five- and 10-Amp versions available.
- Walkaround capability
- Expansion: 63 devices (Additional cabs and accessory items). NCE calls anything on the throttle network a "cab".
- Interface: Serial Port, RS232. USB adaptor card is not recommended as some commands are not available over USB connections.
- Programming Track connections, Programming Track Booster recommended.
The radio systems will be upgraded and increase the number of channels available in the process. It will be backwards compatible. [1][2]
Entry Level Systems
- Power Cab
While the Power Cab looks a lot like a Power Pro (they use the same package for the throttle), it is a 1.5A Booster, Command Station and Throttle integrated into a handheld device. If you disconnect it from the layout, everything stops as the DCC track signal is generated in the handheld. Adding a Smart Booster eliminates that issue. The tight level of integration limits the available current for the track power bus. Some software features are also absent.
The Power Cab features Pro Cab compatibility when connected to NCE Pro Cab / Power Pro command station it functions as a throttle. A cable to enable this feature is included.
The interface to the layout is called the PCP or Pro Cab Panel. It has connections for the ProCab, DC Power, and the Rail A and B terminals to connect the track power bus. It also has jacks to enable expansion of the system via the Cab Bus. Only three additional UTP panels are supported. In addition, three additional cab bus devices are supported for a total of three throttles and three accessories.
Supports USB interfaces for computer control
Basic System
- DCC Twin
This system features two throttles integrated into a single enclosure with the command station and a 3A booster. Limited programming options. Can also be used as a pair of throttles in another NCE system.
Power Pro compared to Power Cab
The Power Pro has additional features. While both units may look alike, there are some important differences:
- Computer interface: RS232, does not require a cab bus address to function, advanced features compared to other NCE systems
- Macro Capability Enhanced
- Accessory decoders last state is restored upon power up
- Control up to 250 locomotives
- Consisting: Up to 128 Advanced Consists possible, with additional consisting features.
Throttles
- Pro Cab/Pro Cab R
- ProCab Deluxe
- A Pro Cab is only a Cab/Throttle. Requires a command station and a booster
- Cab6
- Available singe throttle cab with radio and choice of rotary encoder or potentiometer. Four digit display. Can be used with YARD mode (center zero)
- Cab06r: Radio version
Discontinued
Wireless cabs
- Cab04pr
- Cab04r
Tethered Cabs
- Cab04
- Cab05
Notes
- A Pro Cab and a Power Cab look almost identical but they are two completely different products.
A Pro Cab is a Throttle only. It requires a DCC command station to function. It is a dumb terminal with a keypad and a display.
The Power Cab is a complete DCC system in one package. It is a Throttle, Command Station and Booster. All three in one (handheld) package.
- The Power Cab has a six-wire cable which connects it to the power supply, and also has wires which carry the digital DCC track signal and the throttle bus. This cable cannot be substituted with another. If you need a longer reach, the solution is to purchase a Cab06. They are available in tethered and wireless versions. The Power Cab must remain connected to the Power Cab Panel for the system to work.
- If you wish to run more than a few locomotives with your Power Cab, an SB5 booster may be required.
Each Cab must have its own unique cab address. Available cab addresses are based on the command station being used. Example: For a Power Cab system the available cab addresses are 3, 4, and 5. Addresses 8, 9, and 10 can be used for devices like the USB interface, AIU and Mini Panel.
Command Stations
- PH-Box
- Power Pro System command station/booster
- CS02
- Command Station Only for Power Pro
- SB5 Smart Booster
- Five-amp command station / booster for Power Cab system, up to six throttles. NCE radio compatible. Converts to booster only if needed.
See this page for firmware revisions applicable to their command stations.
Boosters
NCE has used three product names in its manufacturing history.
- MASTER SERIES
- Power House
- Power Pro
- PB5
- Five Amp
- PB110A
- 10 Amp Booster with Automatic Reverse. Recommended for large scales.
- DB5
- Five Amp booster
Expansion Boosters
- DB3/DB3A
- Replaced by the DB5 Booster
- SB3/SB3A
- Replaced by SB5 Smart Booster
The SB5 and DB5 are 5A units. They are current production as of 2017
Smart Booster Firmware
Version 1.28
Version 1.65
- Total number of Cabs supported is 6, Addresses 2-7.
- Supports three AUI, USB or Minipanels on addresses 8-10
- Improved USB functions
1.65a
- Corrected issues with Dumb Booster modes
1.65b
- Number of cab addresses available after reset corrected
Older Units
- PB105. This model evolved into the DB and SB3 boosters. Available by special order only.
- PB110 10A booster, superseded by the PB110a
- PB205. Many PB205a boosters don't have the model's name marked on the front of the booster. Dual 5A boosters
Circuit Protection
- Main article: NCE/Circuit Protectors
Auto Reverser
AR10 10A Auto Reverser
Discontinued Products
Name | Replacement | Status |
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CAB04P | CAB06P | |
CAB04PR | CAB06PR | |
CAB05R | DISCONTINUED | |
CAB05 | ||
SB3 | SB5 | |
SB3A | ||
DB3 | DB5 | |
SWITCH-IT | SWITCH-IT II | |
SWITCH-8 | SWITCH-8 MK II | |
DIN PANEL | DISCONTINUED | |
PACKET ANALYSER[3] |
See Also
- NCE FAQs
- NCE FAQ - NCE Frequently Asked Questions
- NCE Hints - Hints and tips for NCE products
- NCE Products - a more detailed list of NCE's offerings.
- Wangrow - Early DCC manufacturer which used NCE parts and software.
References to this Manufacturer
NCE FAQs
Q: What older NCE decoders are not fully DCC compliant?
With an update to the NMRA DCC Specifications, older NCE decoders which were compliant are no longer. The issue arises when RailCom is active on the Command Station.
When RailCom is enabled, older NCE decoders may operate erratically or with unexpected results. Disable RailCom to prevent these issues should they arise.
The NCE Power Pro system generates 12 bits for the preamble, not the minimum 14 required by the DCC standard. Early multifunction decoders made by NCE expected 12 preamble bits.
- Command stations made with RailCom on board cause the issue. Not all manufacturers1 support RailCom. Most older systems lack RailCom capability. See your manuals to learn if your system has RailCom, and how to disable it.
(1) RailCom is often found on European DCC brands, such as Lenz and ESU.
Edit FAQ Related Articles: DCC Packet, RailCom Related Manufacturer: NCE Categories: Decoder
Q: Programming the Option Key on an NCE Power Cab
The OPTION key on the Power Cab has a number of functions. The default value is 94, Brake. It can be changed for a number of different purposes.
See the Power Cab manual for full details.
A common use of the option key is to access extended functions, which requires changing the default value of 94 to 122, Extended Function Control. These videos demonstrate the process.
'"`UNIQ--item-0--QINU`"'
'"`UNIQ--item-1--QINU`"'
Edit FAQ Related Articles: NCE Power Cab, Accessing Functions above F9 with an NCE Cab Related Manufacturer: NCE Categories: Throttle
Q: Difference between NCE Pro Cab and Power Cab
While the Pro Cab and Power Cab are very similar in appearance, they are not the same. Often, they are mistakenly referred to by the wrong name.
Pro Cab vs Power Cab
Both are throttles. Only one, the Power Cab, has both the command station and booster built in.
Either throttle can be used on an NCE system, the Power Cab will operate as a throttle when used with a command station.
Pro Cab
The Pro Cab is a full feature Cab or Throttle only. It requires connection through NCE's Cab Bus to a command station to operate. It is part of the Power Pro starter set, or can be purchased separately.
The Pro Cab came as part of NCE's original product offering, the Power House Pro Starter Set. NCE originally offered the product to Wangrow to replace their SystemOne DCC system, which Wangrow turned down. This is why it is very similar in appearance to a SystemOne, and even shipped with SystemOne manuals until NCE branded manuals became available.
The Pro Cab can be used as an additional throttle in combination with a Power Cab.
Power Cab
The Power Cab is a complete starter set in one package. Everything needed is contained within the handheld throttle. It comes with two cables, a four wire cable if the Power Cab is to be used as a throttle connecting to the command station via the Cab Bus, the other (heavier) six wire cable enables it to function as DCC system.
In normal use the Power Cab functions as a cab, a command station and a booster, using the heavier six wire cable and the Power Cab Panel. The Power Cab automatically defaults to Cab Bus address 2, which is reserved for the Master Cab. Addresses 3 – 5 are available for additional cabs.
The Power Cab was introduced later, as a competitor to Digitrax's Zephyr starter set. Internally it uses a modified version of the Power House command station's firmware.
When a Power Cab is connected to the Cab Bus using the four wire cable, it functions as a Pro Cab throttle, using Cab Bus addresses 3 – 5.
Only one command station/booster can be connected to the layout.
Edit FAQ Related Articles: Cab Bus, NCE Power Cab, NCE ProCab, Power Cab, Wangrow, Zephyr, Power Pro, Cab Bus Addresses Related Manufacturer: NCE
Categories: Starter Set, Throttle
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- ↑ A Modeller's Life podcast, Episode 198
- ↑ Fall 2022
- ↑ Replaced by DCC Meter and Packet Analyser