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Manufacturer: NCE


Summary: NCE began as an OEM in 1993, supplying hardware and software for the Wangrow SystemOne. NCE became a DCC manufacturer when Wangrow passed on the NCE Power House DCC system as the replacement for the SystemOne. Today NCE offers a variety of DCC Systems and accessories.

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General information
Phone +1-585-265-0230
Fax +1-585-265-0234
Email support@ncecorporation.comURIs of the form "support@ncecorporation.com" are not allowed.
Main URL Main URL
URL to manuals
Address NCE Corporation

82 East main Street Webster, NY 14580

Date Opened 1993
Date Closed
Successor
Device Types Other, Booster, Command Station, Mobile Decoder, Power Supply, Stationary Decoder, Throttle

NCE Corporation

Company Summary

  • NCE DCC System

  • NCE Decoder

  • NCE Power Pro command station with 5A booster.

NCE began manufacturing DCC Products on an OEM basis in 1993 and was originally known as North Coast Engineering. They provided the software component of Wangrow's SystemOne and RamFixx Technologies' RamTraxx DCC systems. The name was changed to NCE when it was incorporated in 1996. Today, NCE has to grown into a full-time electronic design and manufacturing firm devoted entirely to the development and sale of products for the control of model railroads.

The NCE Power House was intended to be marketed by Wangrow as the next generation SystemOne. Wangrow declined, so NCE decided since it was a finished, ready for production product, they would release it under their own brand. Wangrow subsequently went out of business when their licence for the command station software supplied by NCE expired. Wangrow failed to comprehend the difficulty and time requirements needed to create their own software.

Products

NCE produces a full line of Digital Command Control products

Starter Sets

  • Power Pro Advanced Starter Set with external command station / booster. This set may also be equipped with the wireless option. (Radio version shown).

  • Entry Level Power Cab. Note the differences between it and the Power Pro system. The command station and booster are integrated into the throttle.

  • Basic starter set: NCE Twin

Advanced Systems
  • Power Pro
    • Power Pro R (Radio)
  • Power Pro 10
    • Power Pro 10 R

Originally this system was marketed under the Power House name. Complete system with Throttle (Pro Cab), integrated Command Station / Booster. A Power Supply is NOT included.

  • Five- and 10-Amp versions available.
  • Walkaround capability
  • Expansion: 63 devices (Additional cabs and accessory items). NCE calls anything on the throttle network a "cab".
  • Interface: Serial Port, RS232. USB adaptor card is not recommended as some commands are not available over USB connections.
  • Programming Track connections, Programming Track Booster recommended.

The radio systems will be upgraded and increase the number of channels available in the process. It will be backwards compatible. [1][2]

Entry Level Systems
  • Power Cab

While the Power Cab looks a lot like a Power Pro (they use the same package for the throttle), it is a 1.5A Booster, Command Station and Throttle integrated into a handheld device. If you disconnect it from the layout, everything stops as the DCC track signal is generated in the handheld. Adding a Smart Booster eliminates that issue. The tight level of integration limits the available current for the track power bus. Some software features are also absent.

The Power Cab features Pro Cab compatibility when connected to NCE Pro Cab / Power Pro command station it functions as a throttle. A cable to enable this feature is included.

The interface to the layout is called the PCP or Pro Cab Panel. It has connections for the ProCab, DC Power, and the Rail A and B terminals to connect the track power bus. It also has jacks to enable expansion of the system via the Cab Bus. Only three additional UTP panels are supported. In addition, three additional cab bus devices are supported for a total of three throttles and three accessories.

Supports USB interfaces for computer control

Basic System
  • DCC Twin

This system features two throttles integrated into a single enclosure with the command station and a 3A booster. Limited programming options. Can also be used as a pair of throttles in another NCE system.

Power Pro compared to Power Cab

The Power Pro has additional features. While both units may look alike, there are some important differences:

  1. Computer interface: RS232, does not require a cab bus address to function, advanced features compared to other NCE systems
  2. Macro Capability Enhanced
  3. Accessory decoders last state is restored upon power up
  4. Control up to 250 locomotives
  5. Consisting: Up to 128 Advanced Consists possible, with additional consisting features.

Throttles

  • Pro Cab/Pro Cab R
  • ProCab Deluxe
  • Cab6
    • Available singe throttle cab with radio and choice of rotary encoder or potentiometer. Four digit display. Can be used with YARD mode (center zero)
  • Cab06r: Radio version

Discontinued

Wireless cabs
  • Cab04pr
  • Cab04r
Tethered Cabs
  • Cab04
  • Cab05

Notes

A Pro Cab and a Power Cab look almost identical but they are two completely different products.

A Pro Cab is a Throttle only. It requires a DCC command station to function. It is a dumb terminal with a keypad and a display.

The Power Cab is a complete DCC system in one package. It is a Throttle, Command Station and Booster. All three in one (handheld) package.

  • The Power Cab has a six-wire cable which connects it to the power supply, and also has wires which carry the digital DCC track signal and the throttle bus. This cable cannot be substituted with another. If you need a longer reach, the solution is to purchase a Cab06. They are available in tethered and wireless versions. The Power Cab must remain connected to the Power Cab Panel for the system to work.
  • If you wish to run more than a few locomotives with your Power Cab, an SB5 booster may be required.

Each Cab must have its own unique cab address. Available cab addresses are based on the command station being used. Example: For a Power Cab system the available cab addresses are 3, 4, and 5. Addresses 8, 9, and 10 can be used for devices like the USB interface, AIU and Mini Panel.

Command Stations

  • PH-Box
    • Power Pro System command station/booster
  • CS02
    • Command Station Only for Power Pro
  • SB5 Smart Booster
    • Five-amp command station / booster for Power Cab system, up to six throttles. NCE radio compatible. Converts to booster only if needed.

See this page for firmware revisions applicable to their command stations.

Boosters

NCE has used three product names in its manufacturing history.

  1. MASTER SERIES
  2. Power House
  3. Power Pro
  • PB5
    • Five Amp
  • PB110A
    • 10 Amp Booster with Automatic Reverse. Recommended for large scales.
  • DB5
    • Five Amp booster

Expansion Boosters

  • DB3/DB3A
    • Replaced by the DB5 Booster
  • SB3/SB3A
    • Replaced by SB5 Smart Booster

The SB5 and DB5 are 5A units. They are current production as of 2017

Smart Booster Firmware
Version 1.28
  • Function Refresh
  • USB support
  • 28 Functions
  • CVs up to 999 supported
  • Reset to factory defaults
Version 1.65
  • Total number of Cabs supported is 6, Addresses 2-7.
  • Supports three AUI, USB or Minipanels on addresses 8-10
  • Improved USB functions

1.65a

  • Corrected issues with Dumb Booster modes

1.65b

  • Number of cab addresses available after reset corrected
Older Units
  • PB105. This model evolved into the DB and SB3 boosters. Available by special order only.
  • PB110 10A booster, superseded by the PB110a
  • PB205. Many PB205a boosters don't have the model's name marked on the front of the booster. Dual 5A boosters

Circuit Protection

Main article: NCE/Circuit Protectors

Auto Reverser

AR10 10A Auto Reverser

Discontinued Products

Discontinued Products, NCE
Name Replacement
CAB04P CAB06P
CAB04PR CAB06PR
CAB05R DISCONTINUED
CAB05
SB3 SB5
SB3A
DB3 DB5
SWITCH-IT SWITCH-IT II
SWITCH-8 SWITCH-8 MK II
DIN PANEL DISCONTINUED
PACKET ANALYSER

See Also

  • NCE FAQs
  • NCE FAQ - NCE Frequently Asked Questions
  • NCE Hints - Hints and tips for NCE products
  • NCE Products - a more detailed list of NCE's offerings.
  • Wangrow - Early DCC manufacturer which used NCE parts and software.

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NCE FAQs

Q: Is it possible to display the current draw on the display of the NCE Power Cab?

Yes, the instructions are found on page 58 of the manual. This feature does not work if an SB5 is in use.

  1. Push Program/ESC six times
  2. When display states "Set Cab Parameters press ENTER
  3. Press 1 (Yes) for display track current
  4. Press Program/ESC


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Edit FAQ  Related Manufacturer: NCE Categories: Starter Set

Q: Cab Bus Connectors

The NCE Cab Bus can use a DIN Plug, a TRS Phone plug, or an RJ–12 plug.

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DIN Plug

Using a 5 pin 180º DIN connector. From the left, with keyway at the bottom, going clockwise:

  1. +12 Volts (nominal)
  2. Ground
  3. "A" lead of RS-485 signal
  4. "B" lead of RS-485 signal

This is optional, can be used when wired for compatibility with the Lenz XpressNet

Three Pin (TRS) Phone Plug

  • Tip: +12 Volts (7.5 to 16 Volts DC is OK)
  • Ring: RS-485 "A" lead
  • Sleeve: Ground


RJ-12

Main article: Modular Connector

This connection is used for the Cab Bus. The UTP (Utility Throttle Panel) has these connections.

  1. Reserved
  2. +12 VDC
  3. A lead of RS-485 signal
  4. B lead of RS-485 signal
  5. Ground
  6. Reserved

Only the 4 inner wires are used. This is the preferred interface.

It is very important to get the correct type of cable. Using a cable which flips connections will damage your equipment. Edit FAQ Related Articles: Cab Bus, What is the Cab Bus Related Manufacturer: NCE Categories: Throttle Network

Q: NCE Power Pro Command Station and Accessory Decoders

Issues can arise when multiple commands are sent to the same DCC address in succession. The NCE Power Pro command station formats the digital packet with twelve bits in the preamble, where the NMRA DCC Standard calls for a minimum of 14.

The DCC standard also mandates that a decoder must not accept a preamble of less than 10 bits as valid, or require more than 12 bits.

This can cause a decoder to miss instructions.

Early NCE multifunction decoders also follow this, resulting in issues when RailCom is in operation.

Edit FAQ Related Articles: Accessory Decoder, Digital Packet, RailCom Related Manufacturer: NCE Categories: Command Station

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  1. ↑ A Modeller's Life podcast, Episode 198
  2. ↑ Fall 2022
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